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Soap Making Q & A ~ An Invitation

Official soap week @ FIMBY was a couple weeks ago already. Here's the posts from that week:

My actual soapmaking plans were cut short by an impromptu family trip to hike Mt. Katahdin the Friday of that week. The soap I planned to make that day, Holiday Spice, didn't get made till last week.

I will be sharing that recipe with you in my next post, just in time for you to make a batch for your own holiday gift giving.

Alternatively, you can buy a bar or two from me the beginning of December when it is done curing. I took special care to cut the bars thin (I'll be selling them by the ounce or gram) so they don't cost so much to ship. I'll post the price and shipping rates when they are ready.

In this post I wanted to share a few photos of what the soap making process looks like and answer any soapmaking questions you may have.

If you have specific questions about any part of the process - supplies, recipes, mishaps, curing, etc... please ask in comments and I will do my best to answer those questions this week before we unplug this machine and pack it up to move to the chalet the end of this week.


Trace

Simple Soap

Like I mentioned in A Soapmaking Journey my Simple Soap recipe, about as simple a recipe as can be found, traced very weirdly this time around. I would have taken a photo but I was so focused on the task-at-hand, it was hardening very fast, that I just didn't have time. 

Approximately one day after pouring (about 24 hours) I cut the soap into bars. Some of it I just broke off in chunks. It's destined to be grated in the food processor for laundry soap so it doesn't matter what it looks like. The texture was real crumbly so I wasn't sure how well the soap turned out.

So I did a test. I used the little bits of soap left on the the mold liner (I use a cardboard box lined with a thick plastic bag for a mold) to scrub stains out of my daughter's jeans. Worked like a charm. It doesn't look pretty but it works and that's all that matters. 

Holiday Spice

The kids were more involved this time around, it was a bit of a homeschool project after all, and for the Holiday Spice soap I let them all "swirl" their own batch. I found this really great cardboard box that came with four rectangular inserts (a vitamin company box I scored at the health food store). I lined them all with plastic and we each got our our box to muck around with. 

This is how you produce two toned/textured soap:

  1. At trace add your essential oils and any other material you want throughout the whole bar into the lye/water/oil mixture.  
  2. Pour approximately half of the pot into the mold or molds.
  3. Add your colorants, in this case cocoa powder and ground cloves, to the remaining mixture.
  4. Mix well and working quickly (don't panic but you can't dawdle at this stage or your soap will harden too much in the pot and you won't get as much into your molds) pour this "colored" mixture over top the first layer.
  5. Using a spatula carve figure 8's and S-shaped patterns through the liquid soap. Don't be afraid to go deep. Every time I'm cautious the design isn't as pretty.

We each made our own pattern and labeled our boxes accordingly. This kind of thing matters to kids - that they know which is their design and genius (smile).

Shampoo Soap

The girls and I came up with two recipes for this batch - Lavender Lemonade and Orange Spice Cookie (at least I think that is what Celine is calling it).

I don't have as much space for curing soap as I used to, a wall mounted wire rack in my old kitchen. I'm currently experimenting with how to cure soap in small spaces. Don't let lack of curing space deter you. I think soap can really cure anywhere but the more air circulation it gets the harder it gets. And the harder the bar the longer it lasts. 

History

My grandmother reads this blog. I don't see her much, she lives on the opposite coast. Hi Grandma, I love you! 

Anyway, she e-mailed me her childhood soap making memories after reading my soap week posts. Feeling connected to my grandma and great-grandmother - who I knew as I young child - through my soap making makes it that much more meaningful to me.  

I remember when I was little my Mom making soap and using ashes as lye. Yes, and saving all the fats to make soap for washing clothes. Later she used (store-bought) lye, and how very cautious we all had to be .

If you have any questions, ask away. And stay tuned for the Holiday Spice soap recipe.

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8 November 11

Comments

How lovely that you share

How lovely that you share this soapmaking heritage with all those who have gone before you and now with your children. That is a lot of soap you make. Hiking must make one so incredible dirty.! :)

Good luck, Renee, with your upcoming move. The place looks wonderful.

I love making soap, it's

I love making soap, it's addictive. As I've mentioned before, it's your simple soap making video that got me going on this journey. Seems that the essential oils I use are not as strong smelling after the soap has cured and I would love for them to keep their smell. I order my essential oils from Mountain Rose Herbs. Should I be using stronger oils ?

Hi, I am new to your blog and

Hi,
I am new to your blog and I really enjoy it! I love these soap making posts and I am interested in trying a batch for Christmas. I was looking at digital scales online as I don't have one and was wondering what characteristics I should be looking for in one. For example, what is the best weight range to have? If you have any input, I would appreciate it. Thanks!

Renee, I loved your soap

Renee, I loved your soap posts. I wanted to comment but life was busy that week and I wasn't able to. Strange how life seems too busy to type a few words. Anyways, I wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge.. Also, is it strange that I love the photo of the soap at trace? I hope you will let us know how your shampoo soap turned out. They look beautiful.

Hello Renee, I was just

Hello Renee,

I was just wondering about your shampoo soap. I've been making shampoo soap for a year now and at first it was fantastic but withing a few months we found that it leaves our hair clean but greasy and very difficult to comb out (I have long hair). I would really like to find a recipe that does not leave our hair so greasy and even better one that helps conditions to minimize tangles. How has your shampoo soap worked with your family? do you use commercial conditioners, cider vinegar or baking soda washes to condition? Would you be willing to share your shampoo recipe with me? Any help would be appreciated, I really do not wish to purchase commercial shampoo and conditioners! ...thanks

Your soap looks good enough

Your soap looks good enough to eat! Reminds me of fudge waiting to be cut;)
Good luck with the move! I love to read your blog. You and your family are an inspiration to me. We considered moving into a yurt a few years ago but we chickened out! Maybe someday...

Hi Renee, I have three more

Hi Renee,
I have three more questions that I hope you are willing to answer. First, about your holiday bar. Do you think you could halve the recipe with good results? Do you think it might be done curing in 4 weeks instead of 6 which is what I am working with now as a time frame now that I have gathered supplies. Also, I have another recipe that mixes the oils and lye solution at 80 degrees. Your holiday bar mixes at a quite a bit higher temp. Is the object here to get the oil and water solutions at about the same temp in order for it to mix well? Thanks so much. I am looking foward to giving this a go- even if they don't turn out in time for my Christmas gathering.

Thanks so much for your

Thanks so much for your answers Renee! They are really helpful. I thought 80 degrees sounded a bit low too, but I do think the author said that she would let the lye solution cool down overnight to give herself more time for the soap making process because she had young children at the time. I may have botched that story up, but I think it was something like that.
I also love your idea of the labels you made. Brilliant!
I read your post today about your moving in weekend. I sure hope you are feeling better and are 100% soon!

Oh Renee, I am having such

Oh Renee, I am having such trouble with this soap recipe. The first time I made it, I felt the variables that made it go awry were several things. I tried halving it, I had to make a last minute oil substitution (more canola for the soybean oil), I was making two batches of soap at once, my mold seemed too shallow and I had kids underfoot (though I started at naptime). So, my good, sweet friends took pity on me and gave me more money to cover about 2/3 of the costs to try again. So, last night, I had all the right ingredients, an empty house, and decided to make a full batch but I still flubbed it up. I made a mistake of measuring things in fl. oz instead of ounces-my new scale confused me I guess (and I measured everything so carefully!), but by the time I realized it, the oils were already melting. And I didn't know how to rememdy it, except pray for the best. Anyway, it came to trace, which I thought was hopeful. And then the same thing as last time happened. When I put the cocoa and cloves in and tried to marble everything. The brown layer got all clumpy and gross and the oils started separating, though it mixed fine when adding the colorants. Then it all got oily and separated, but it was still about 120 degrees, so I just decided to try blending it all again. It got really thick and the oils mixed back in, but it is not smooth and it is very dark brown. It seems to be firming up after 10 hours or so, but it feels spongy. It is definitely not beautiful :(. I so badly want to successfully make this beautiful, swirly soap, but now I am scared. If finances weren't such an issue maybe it would be another thing. It just makes me sick to pour that much money down the drain. The other soap I made the first round had palm oil in it. This is before I saw that you had a link that palm oil was not a very good choice. Bummer! That soap turned out thankfully. Does palm oil saponify easier than other oils? So, any thoughts or encouragement? Especially about adding in the colorants? Why they didn't seem to incorporate?

I am interested in making

I am interested in making soap I would like to talk to you I am scared and need to speak with Someone about starting all of this. I don't want to get into a big mess financially but would like to start making it! Please help me we have five children and I am looking for this to help my family income! Thanks, Elizabeth

I was wondering if you have

I was wondering if you have experimented with making softsoap or liquid bodywash. I have not used bar soap for several years because whatever ingredient makes the soap hard is also the same ingredient that leaves soap scum in your bathtub. So I've outlawed bar soap in my house and saved myself lots of scrubbing. I'd love to find out if there is a way to make it and save some money. Thanks

Hi Renee. I've made a couple

Hi Renee. I've made a couple batches of soap with some friends, and am ready to try something on my own. I'd like to make something not too strong smelling and I'd like to use honey, bees wax, goats milk or coconut milk, and I'm happy to leave the color as is...do you have any tried and true recipes that you like to use? I'm hesitant to just go on the internet and pick something! Thanks! Nicole

Hi Renee, By some divine

Hi Renee, By some divine internet rabbit trail, I've just found your blog. I'm moving from melt & pour to lye soap making and I was wondering if you could tell me anything about how you package your soaps. Do they need to be wrapped after curing or is it better for them to continue to "breathe"? Thanks for any information (and I apologize if you've answered this somewhere already)!

Another Canadian supplier for

Another Canadian supplier for you... I recently ordered supplies from New Directions Aromatics and Saffire Blue (www.saffireblue.ca). The latter might be worth checking out. I haven't ordered the exact products from each place to compare quality, however their prices are generally better than the other. I was also impressed by their shipping packaging. Admittedly, my order from NDA was designated for pick-up and things had been tossed in plastic shopping bags, however NDA did not tape any of the bottled liquids. Saffire Blue has every bottle taped (around the cap where it meets the bottle), in addition to bubble wrap of each EO. They used cornstarch packing pellets, which easily dissolved in the sink with water. They also sent a follow-up email, which was nice. Hope that helps as you settle into your new home (congrats on the adventure) and get back on your feet (one day at a time).

I have a GIGANTIC box of

I have a GIGANTIC box of fragrance oils that was given to me from a store closeout. Is there going to be an issue using fragrance oil instead of essential oils? Another question is can you blend by hand instead of a mixer? We run off solar power so I try to limit the power usage from myy "crazy craft projects," as my DH refers to them.

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An idea for curing soap in

An idea for curing soap in small spaces...

So, I've been coaching myself up towards making my first batch of soap and in the process found a little free ebook (http://www.kobobooks.com/ebook/Clean-Across-Canada/book-EO4j07lacUSspkHn...), that explains a process using the oven. As I understand it, it effectively cuts down on the curing phase. There is also a small batch approach (1 lb) and a reference to a site with lots of 'blender' sized recipes (http://www.colebrothers.com/soapcalc/free.html).

Now for me both aspects appeal because I don't have a large space to cure or store the soap in, plus, I'm too curious to make a large batch and wait until it cures and gets used before trying another recipe. But 1 lb batches...now that is doable! It may not be new to you, but I thought that in your new, cozy space, the oven and small batch approach might be useful too.

I made my first batch on the

I made my first batch on the weekend! Coffee grounds & orange eo for a kitchen/mechanics soap. It was a couple of pounds, so I opted to pour half the soap in an empty 500ml cream carton to cold process, and then I worked with the rest in the oven. It was definitely interesting...that hot process soap is so gloopy and messy to mold that I think I'll stick to cold processing!

Anyways, I just wanted to thank you for posting your soap how-to's...they were definitely the catalyst for me trying my hand at crafting soap.

First, off, well done on the

First, off, well done on the website! I'm a new fan and thoroughly enjoyed reading and browsing. I love the story about your grandmother and how you get to share your experiences with her. I'm having a huge problem with handmade soap and hard water. We used to be exclusive Dove bar users because it made our skin feel great but we switched to handmade soap about 6 months ago. We have bought lots of different types of handmade soaps and all of them dried out our skin. So we started making our own soap about 3 months ago hoping to make something more moisturizing. We've tried 3 recipes and still, the dry skin persists! I haven't tried a castille soap yet since my husband's requirement is that it have lots of lather. We have VERY hard water and I think this has something to do with how the soaps are drying. Have you heard of any extra moisturizing recipes that work especially well in hard water? I've searched around, but everything I've found has to do with laundry soap. Thanks!

Aloha, I am new to soap

Aloha,
I am new to soap making. I just finish making my first batch of liquid soap. It turns out clear but way to thin even though I add glycerin as a thickener. What do I do now to thicken at this point? I use the following ingredients: 24 oz coconut oil, 13 oz olive oil, 11 oz castor oil, 2 oz lanolin. I neutralize it with 33% borax solution, add EOs and thicken with glycerin.

with melt and pour soap, is

with melt and pour soap, is there any substitute for fragrance/ essential oils? I'm 12 years old and kind of a newbie, but i have made a few soaps and they have turned out pretty well. I wanted to make my mum some soap for christmas but i don't really have any money to buy more fragrance oils. I also don't have the time for them to arrive as it is 7 days till Christmas. I just need any idea of something that can be used instead that will smell good. I don't know what to do so I would really appreciate some help.

Thanks in advance x

<p>Oh thank you very much! I

<p>Oh thank you very much! I really appreiciate the help anyway. I tried googling but I couldn't find a helpful, you know what google's like! Thanks for the help anyway, and I managed to put together something for my mum.&nbsp;</p>

<p>Thanks again, Sophie x</p>

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