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Potty Talk | FIMBY — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:31:35 -0400

[...] around the same time I was feeling pretty good about our family making the switch to recycled, save-the-trees, toilet paper. That didn't last too long though as my friend Cori upped the anti with her Uber-Eco recycled, for [...]

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Greener toilet paper | FIMBY — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:28:42 -0400

[...] toilet paper Submitted by renee on Sat, 2008-07-19 15:28. I thought I was green in using recycled toilet paper. That didn't come out right. I mean toilet paper made from recycled paper. My friend Cori is taking [...]

Preach it Baby!

renee — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:37:40 -0400

Preach it Baby!

I think that herein lies the

damien — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:27:04 -0400

I think that herein lies the problem. I think we are spoiled by getting whatever we want for really cheap, where the true long-term costs have been hidden from us for so long.

The cost of purchasing a product is more than just the cost of raw materials and production. The true cost of a product is the cost of that product through it's entire life-cycle. This includes: engineering, raw materials, production, shipping, disposal, and all of the environmental costs associated with every step in the entire process. We are not used to paying for the entire life-cycle costs of a product when we purchase it, instead we leave it to our children to have to worry about the environmental costs of or our purchases. We are now paying the environmental costs from the decisions our parents made.

Paying more for products is good because it makes us think about how we want to spend our money. It makes us buy less. Buying cheap stuff at cheap prices is what is getting us into this environmental mess in the first place.

I am all for better

damien — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:14:10 -0400

I am all for better forestry. Better forestry would essentially mean that we cut down less wood. Less wood means more expensive wood. More expensive wood means we use it less and probably don't use as much of it for toilet paper.

Really well said Renee. I

Amanda T. — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:36:42 -0400

Really well said Renee. I totally agree with you!

I agree that the economic

Samantha — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:05:43 -0400

I agree that the economic aspect of living a more earth-friendly lifestyle is so frustrating, it would seem that using things in the less refined, more natural state should be less expensive than the more refined or wasteful alternatives. Maybe the cost of the recycling is factored in and like you said, the demand is not high enough yet. I'm holding out hope that things will level out and even tilt in our favor in the near future as so many more people look for more natural alternatives. I love your blog and am learning so much.

what about the approach that

rich g — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:40:15 -0400

what about the approach that advocates better forestry, so folks can continue to utilize the forests?
just an early am thought..
R

"Too bad we can't return to

Rich — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:38:40 -0400

"Too bad we can't return to the good old days of outhouses and using well-read Sears catalogs and corn cobs for toilet "paper". "

hmm
one word comes to mind..

ouch

Greener...down the toilet

renee — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:10:28 -0400

This journey to live more "green" is a process, often painfully slow. Sometimes the steps we take are large (can't think of any recent ones) but more often they are daily, small steps towards living a more earth friendly lifestyle, for lack of a better phrase.

One of this month's changes is....new toilet paper. Hardly worth mentioning but hey it's my blog and I can write about whatever I want.

Our family really appreciates trees. We hike every weekend in the mountains of Maine and never seem to get enough of the woods. The kids already understand how much humans and animals depend on trees for basic survival needs like, um, oxygen. The oceans produce a lot of oxygen as well, Laurent would pipe up if he were writing this.

So it just seems to make sense to try to use less of those virgin trees for wiping our ***es. Too bad we can't return to the good old days of outhouses and using well-read Sears catalogs and corn cobs for toilet "paper". We're trying to do second, third or maybe fourth best and use 100% (80% Post-Consumer) recycled toilet paper.

The ironic thing is that doing so costs more money. Why is making a better choice always a more costlier choice? At least initially, while there isn't enough demand. Sometimes I hate economics. For the past while we've been bumping up against the better choices cost more dilemma. And sometimes you can't choose the best for the environment or the best for your community or the best for your body because you simply can't afford to. But we are trying with each little step to move more in this direction. Which leaves us with less money for some stuff but then we realize in the end, we didn't need that stuff anyway.