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Looking for Mommies like me

Going your own way is a hard thing to do. A couple years ago when I discovered an internet community of women "like me" (mommy bloggers) I felt that I found a place I belonged. A large group of women who believed in natural home births, homeschooled their babes, grew gardens, ate a plant based diet (though this was rarer), and made their own fill-in-the-blank.

But the farther we go down our family's unique path the more I have an increasing sense of being "different" yet again. Our family is choosing to walk into the wilderness, literally and metaphorically speaking, in several areas of our life. And I see less like-minded mommy companions at my side the farther we go.

Take our family's outdoor pursuits for example; a very literal walk in the wilderness. Sure lots of blogging mommies write about the outdoors and taking their kids on nature hikes, especially us homeschoolers. It's a huge part of the "curriculum". But I don't know many other families, either real or on-line, who hike almost every weekend and structure their weeks very much around this core family time.  

Nor do I find many other homemakers who have chosen to garden less to follow their husband's desire to spend more time in the woods together. Or women who are trying to figure out how to use non-disposable menstruation products while backpacking, never mind at home. And are mentally preparing how to teach these skills to their daughters. Those mamas may be out there but I haven't met too many of them.

And this is just one area that I feel I walk alone. There's the way we eat (I'm not raising chickens, we don't regularly eat eggs), the way we gather with other believers (we don't go to church, we are the church), the way we homeschool (very family based not belonging to co-ops). I sometimes feel so isolated by it all.  

This is not to say we aren't involved in our community, we are. I'm a part of two buying clubs which are collectives of people buying food together, we have a farm share and are actively engaged with a local organization that teaches our community about growing food.

We meet weekly with other homeschool families for play dates and activities, we gather with Christians for fellowship and encouragement and we regularly host friends, family and strangers for meals and hospitality. But being involved in your community and having deep connections with other people are not one in the same

The way we live takes a lot of energy. We invest ourselves each day into building our family and a healthy future for our children. I don't have a lot of time available during daylight hours to connect with people, so I enjoy my (brief) post-child bedtime internet connections.  But even there I am feeling less like I belong. That I am on the fringe of the fringe.  

Do not misunderstand me. I am not seeking pity and I am not complaining.  I have a family life that is rich, sweet and deep. My days are full of meaning and purpose. I have a life partner to love, laugh with and hold on to.  

Nor am I am saying my life is special in any way that other women do not experience.  I think we all have unique living circumstances but I have the perception (probably false) that other people just "fit in" better. Fit in with the norm, or fit in with the fringe. But that they find a community of women and can say "this is where I belong".

Maybe I need to seek less affirmation from other women. From mothers, bloggers, homeschoolers. And be confident right where I am as wife, mother and homemaker. 

I am not following mommy trends, mommy bloggers or mommy culture.  I am going as my husband leads, I am by his side and secure in the direction we are going. Hand-in-hand I want to explore the wilderness, literally and metaphorically. I just feel kind of lonely for female companionship in the walking.

21 March 10

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Hi, I've been reading your

Hi, I've been reading your blog for a while but not sure I've ever commented! Love the new look.
I had to jump to the site from my reader to comment here, because though my family/lifestyle is different than yours, I connected with your thoughts. I can't say I've ever found a group of women I felt like I "fit in" with. I'm interested to see how your other readers respond, because I have a feeling that this is a common perception, that many of us women feel like somehow everybody else is "in" and "gets it" and we just don't somehow. I have some truly beautiful and deep friendships, developed over years, which are based on mutual values but don't necessarily share much in terms of lifestyle. I've learned to accept those differences and enjoy the way we challenge each other. I do still long for that group, that community where I won't feel like, as you said, the fringe of the fringe. The thing is, I'm just not sure it exists. And I guess that's okay. You summed it up in your last paragraph so well. It's lonely to choose a different way. But it's worth it, worth it, worth it.
Best,
Annie

I have so much to say in

I have so much to say in response to your post! Let me start by saying you are not alone! I, also, feel like I am in an environment where I don't fit in. Like Annie, even in this environment, I have found some wonderful friends who accept me as I am and I learn from their perspectives. I am sure, like me, that you are not looking for people who are the same because they see life the same way, but someone who you can enjoy the things you enjoy in life with. I am not looking for someone who has an exact list of interests as me either, but it would be a rare treat if I could find someone who has more than just one or two! I have been following your blog for about a week now, but the reason I began following it is that we seem to have a lot of the same interests. We homeschool our 3 children, I have been a vegetarian for almost 20 years and I lean more toward vegan eating all the time, we find organized religion a challenge for us, and we try to spend as much time outdoors as we can. I'm not sure that our paths would ever align perfectly with anyone else which is a good thing since there is so much to learn from one another and I really respect a person for choosing their own way and not following the crowd. This is the sort of person that I would like to be friends with! I will continue to follow your blog and look forward to learning from you!

excellent post renee. lots to

excellent post renee. lots to reflect on here.

i'm finding the further along i am in my mothering journey the less i need to have other people in my life who "get" everything i do.

i have my waldorfy friends and enjoy sharing holidays and handwork projects with them. my roadschooling / homeschooling / unschooling friends whose adventures i enjoy following. my birth network friends who inspire me and get me jazzed up about local political issues. my farm / csa friends. my church friends. my neighbors who we gather with casually from time to time.

at one time i think i was looking for a small group of people who would comfortably interface in all of these groups with me -- my own tribe of kindred spirits who would see everything as i do and affirm all my lifestyle decisions.

but that's just not how it is. and not how i would have it even if i could choose at this point. i like the diverse groups i'm part of and the ways i grow and expand by being exposed to different ways of seeing the world.

thanks for giving me something to chew on this morning while i get breakfast ready for my family...

~erin

I have been lurking on your

I have been lurking on your blog for awhile. I enjoy your blog *because* your life is different than mine. I would love to homeschool, but my husband is very much against it at this point and since we have enrolled our children in a wonderful Montessori school that they are happy in, I can't argue it at this point. But reading your blog gives me ideas for enriching my children's learning at home, as I firmly believe that I am my children's primary teacher. I cloth diaper and attempt a paper-free kitchen, but am not nearly as environmentally friendly as you. I am inspired by your commitment to family time in the outdoors. While I don't feel that's our "core," its refreshing to see a family so focused on their personal values.

I too have felt lonely at times. My husband's job is very different, months away working then months at home. I spend half my year as a single stay-at-home parent and half my year as one of two stay-at-home parents. Very few of our friends have any idea what that is like. I know the feeling of missing out on female understanding and companionship. I think we all know that to some degree. But I do want to say that even if we don't have exactly the same values and lives, I think you're doing a fabulous job. I find your blog to be refreshing and inspiring. Thankyou for spending the time on it that you do.

Hey Renee. Thanks for

Hey Renee. Thanks for sharing such deep emotions.

This has been a common theme in my life and I've found solace in realizing that often when I am growing and changing is when I mostly feel this way. So many times I feel like I've "found" a little spot to fit in--only to outgrow it a few years later. It's happened again and again almost to the point where it doesn't surprise me, rather it means I'm moving on.

I really admire your family's path and am consistently inspired.

How I adore your Blog! I have

How I adore your Blog! I have been following it for about 6 months and look forward to seeing what you post. I find that although I am not like you, I can relate to many of the things you write as a mother, wife, woman and daughter. I can't tell you how inspired I have been by you! . I am in the process of DE-CLUTTERING our lives- scaling down the toys and items that we have to allow for a more simple and thoughtful existence. I have been wanting to do this for a year, but felt motivated after reading your blog and about your own journey. I cloth diaper, use non disposable feminine products- even when camping- (i just have a large stash of cloth napkins and washcloths to clean with, collect them in one of my waterproof, fabric bags that I use to tote around wet and soiled cloth diapers and soak in water and a little borax when I get home before washing). You and your family inspired my family to make the investment in good, winter gear to ensure we are outside in the winter almost as much in the warmer months. We live in New England as well and being raised in a city, cold weather = indoors. Inspired by your family, I made the realization that all it takes is the right clothing and preparation. THANK YOU to you and your family for that!. We used what we had this year, but decided to add it to the budget and take advantage of off season sales. I could go on and on about what I have gotten from your blog- but I think the main thing that I want to say is "Thank you". Thank you for sharing your life and thoughts. I so appreciate the time that you take to share intimate and intricate details of how you and your family exist, the things you find fulfilling and important, and your beautiful photos. You have greatly inspired this CT mom to have the courage to embrace some things that have been in my heart but that I always felt were "too out there" for others to get. Truth is, I find that now, I don't really care about how I am perceived outside of my husband and children and that has been the most freeing. I look forward to reading your next post!

Interesting post for sure.

Interesting post for sure. the comments are truly insightful! I am most likely your total OPPOSITE :) But that's ok with me if it's ok with you! The best things about most people are their differences. I have to tell my 3 year old daughter this quite often as she is now beginning to verbalize her explorations of other children at her private, religious school... hehe. I have to tell myself that, at times, too. I think your family's lifestyle is very unique while mine is quite common. I yearn to do things like make soaps and take weekly hikes or have a sustainable farm. However, I am a working mom and I love my occupation (meteorologist.) I appreciate the extra income and so does my family. I struggle with not being able to spend more time with my loved ones, but I have loved ones here at work as well. They are like an extended family! Many times I feel lonely but I always try to remember that God has a place for me. In my loneliest times I can hear His voice the loudest and I am no longer all on my own. BTW: I struggle with organized religion...church. But, I go. And, through missions, I am reminded why I go. Good luck in your search! I enjoy reading your blogs!

Alot of us are "outside the

Alot of us are "outside the norm" or struggle with fitting in to some degree. If you took a cursory look at my life you may feel I am too mainstream for you but you'd be missing our own struggles to live out our core values, to be set-apart, to figure out our place in this world... We're not all called 'to the wilderness' in the same way you are. The reason many enjoy reading your thoughts is because they challenge and encourage us to be equally willing to go figure out who we are/what we want out of life and have the courage to pursue this - even if it means feeling alone or misunderstood along the way. I wish I had a 'kindred spirit friend' here who really understood me but I don't. Still, I appreciate the women who are in my life and I don't want to ever be ungrateful for their love in my life. We each have a unique perspective to challenge eachother with. We are NOT meant to all look exactly alike, eat alike, talk alike... I really don't think that is the point. Furthermore, diversity is one of the most beautiful aspects of creation! We each have a unique role in this life to discover and pursue. Finally, I believe we are blessed to be a blessing. So as you learn and grow and continue to pour out into other women's lives, you are blessing us with your particular (needed) giftings.

I totally relate to your

I totally relate to your feelings of isolation and loneliness. I've always done things in an unfashionable way in my life and often found myself in situations where I embodied "different-ness" by being foreign, or too young, too old, or the outsider (I went to work abroad when my peers were in college, I went backpacking throughout South America when my coworkers were pursuing careers, I went to university when my friends were starting families ...) It never really bothered me too much, but I have felt that sense of "loneliness for female companionship in the walk". Now, through the internet, I find that some of the choices I made years ago - leaving the city and living a frugal and rural lifestyle - are somewhat shared by many bloggers worldwide. I still don't quite fit in, and often feel that there's a bit of a communication gulf, but there are also strong connections.

Yeah, me too! :0) In fact, I

Yeah, me too! :0) In fact, I have no friends. That sounds pitiful but it's true. At least none in real life. None here, where I live. Only online. We are SO different than everyone else around here. No-one I know has home-birthed. Only online. No-one in my homeschool group eats like I do, in fact, I get made fun of! :( No-one else can conceive of why I do not vaccinate or take my kids to the doctor or why we use mostly herbal/homeopathic remedies. I'm a weirdo!
I gather with these ladies not for companionship or friendship even (though some of them are really lovely) I do it for my kids, so they can connect with other kids and have fun. I have nothing in common with any of these ladies except that we homeschool. So no real deep friendships will form. Also, one of my best friends in the whole world moved away from me two years ago...my mom...and I miss her so very much. I don't care if I have like-minded friends in real life, as long as I have my husband and my mom. I'd be just fine! But I lost my dear mom friend and now I have only my husband....which isn't a bad thing... :) I just long for that female companionship sometimes. We don't go to church either, we homechurch but only us...we don't know anyone else who wants to. :( Everyone is really big into church activities here and I just *don't* fit in there.

So...long story short, I totally get what you're saying. I do. Even though I don't choose to go explore every single Saturday doesn't mean we don't get out there and explore...just not as often as you. We don't do measley "nature hikes" either...we have stomping grounds, real serious hiking and we love to camp! But I am putting in a big garden this year. LOL
There are no farm shares here...we live in the backwoods kind of...in a little town that has no idea all the possibilities out there. I *WISH* we had some of the stuff you have. I just buy local veggies from farm stands on the side of the road in the good months...:0)
I am thankful for the fact that I live in the "Bible Belt" of America and there are lots of believers here...but that is about the only good thing where I live. I am an outsider, I am a freak, I do not fit in and I don't have any friends.

Sounds so depressing...LOL
But we are happy!

Renee, I know are lifestyles

Renee, I know are lifestyles and priorities don't match in all areas, but I believe I do truly understand where you are coming from. Maybe it's just me, but it seems that few people really understand the joy of placing one's family as the highest priority above everything else on this earth. I know people look crosseyed at some (or lot) of the things Glen and I stand for, and I can comfortably count on one hand how many women I truly connect with when it comes to our beliefs. In one sense, that may be good in that it strengthens our relationships with our husbands (if we allow it to) by becoming more and more best friends with them, but it can also feel lonely. Of course I don't have anything wise to offer you, except to encourage you that there are others who feel they are forging a new path, and while it may be lonely at times, for the sake of children and their chldren, it is absolutely necessary. God bless you and your family Renee!

Just read about menstrual

Just read about menstrual products - having used both the keeper and the diva cup - I like the diva cup better - a little easier to use for me for some reason! Back to the issues you raised. Are you happy doing what you do? I find I am happy with the way I live - which is not the way you or many other people live. And it is constantly changing. I'm sure you are the same.

Walden, Chapter 2, "Where I

Walden, Chapter 2, "Where I Lived, and What I Lived For"

I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. I did not wish to live what was not life, living is so dear; nor did I wish to practise resignation, unless it was quite necessary. I wanted to live deep and suck out all the marrow of life, to live so sturdily and Spartan- like as to put to rout all that was not life, to cut a broad swath and shave close, to drive life into a corner, and reduce it to its lowest terms, and, if it proved to be mean, why then to get the whole and genuine meanness of it, and publish its meanness to the world; or if it were sublime, to know it by experience, and be able to give a true account of it in my next excursion. For most men, it appears to me, are in a strange uncertainty about it, whether it is of the devil or of God, and have somewhat hastily concluded that it is the chief end of man here to "glorify God and enjoy him forever.

I carry it in my backpack,

I carry it in my backpack, laminated. It goes with me when we do long distance hikes to remind me why I am out on a mountain, in the pouring rain, with achy feet, in the growing dark, and still have three more miles to go.

Some days (here at home) it works well, too.

Your post has had me thinking

Your post has had me thinking all morning...I think that's a good thing : )
I think many of us struggle to "connect" with kindred spirits. Our family has lived in 3 states in 3 years and that certainly hasn't helped my situation. I have met some great people, but connecting takes time. I have found that the "connections" are beginning just as we are leaving.

So I, too, can relate to much of what you are saying. Our family values much of what your family values...but we are unique in our own ways. We thrive on weekend adventures in nature. This past weekend, the adventure belonged solely to my husband as he climbed Mt. St. Helens....by Sunday night, I felt as if my weekend didn't happen because I didn't get to experience time in nature. I didn't realize it had become such a part of my life...rejuvenating me.

But your post has had me thinking about what our family values (Christ, homeschooling, outreach (globally and locally), nature, adventure, simplicity, music, health...) and how we go about each day with these values in mind. Thank you for making my mind work a little harder today, and for all the inspiration you provide your readers.

Hi Renee, I've been thinking

Hi Renee,
I've been thinking of writing to you for a while, and this seemed like a good day to choose to do it. I think I know just how you feel! Though I am on a slightly different path from you, I'm on a wildly different path from many if not all of the people I know in real life and online. I have been "searching" for a long time for a place and a way to fit in and create deeper connections with women friends, preferably in real life, but I'll take them where I can find them. Sigh. Unlike you, I'm also searching for a way to get my husband on board with a deeper and richer family life - he is so focused on singular pursuits, his passions, and spends a lot of time apart from us (myself and our two sons).

Our family spends a lot of time cross country skiing together all winter (two full days a week, two partial days) but we don't have a family "warm weather" activity that we can spend a whole day doing yet - we all ride bicycles but the littlest is only 4 and can't ride as far yet. He's determined but still has short little legs!

We do homeschool in much the same way you do, though my oldest is 6 so we are really just starting. And I am trying to figure out how to make my own menstrual supplies...which will make my husband roll his eyes and question my sanity, but I'll do it anyway...

In a truly bizarre "six degrees of separation" kind of thing - while perusing your blog I recently figured out that I "know" (only through an online connection, we've never met IRL) your sister in law. She and I were on a message board together while we were both pregnant with our first children.

I *love* your blog and feel inspired by you often. I make my own cleaning products and laundry soap but have become inspired to do lotions and soaps, all because of you. I'll continue to read and hopefully comment more, and maybe we'll get to know each other. :)

That is the one

That is the one (sis-in-law)!
PS My brother lives in Hermon and my favorite cousin lives in Freeport...maybe one day we'll connect IRL! (I live in VT)

I can definitely relate. We

I can definitely relate. We have lived in this area since we were married almost 5 years ago. Still I have no close girlfriends. I believe it is because there are so many aspects of our life that are "extreme" in some circles.

I know women who cook like I do, but who have no desire to be lead by their husbands. I know women who garden like I do, but who have no desire to be a homemaker. For so long I have felt strange about this situation.

Recently I have realized that we are all searching for companionship in all areas because we are always trying to justify our behaviors - good or bad.

That being said, it makes a huge difference to know that you have love and support, especially when your life path is so controversial. We want to live in community with like minded believers, so we are planning our choices around that. But really His way is narrow, not wide, and so I guess it should be no surprise that certain ideas are just not popular.

I am always glad to hear that

I am always glad to hear that someone lives their lives with the goal of having meaningful experiences. No matter what we do or who we are, those are the moments that will live on in the hearts of the ones we love far after we are gone. I think that as soon as we try to put a label on ourselves we start to seperate from other people who are living just as soulful lives...even if they don't subscribe to the same daily tasks that we do.
Your family is lucky to have someone so in tune with her heart!

first, renee, your blog looks

first, renee, your blog looks wonderful. each change is an improvement upon the last.
i am blown away by the wonderful way you honestly share your feelings. so much of the way you live reminds me of the way my parents lived in the early part of my childhood. i think i told you that my parents went backpacking when my mom was due with my brother. it was part of their regular schedule and lifestyle, so they did it. they just packed cloth diapers and a few other items "just in case" he was born along the way. i love that and so wish we did more of it (although i admit my mom told me if i did any such foolish thing, she'd kill me.) somehow, mike and i, we used to do a lot more of this, but have lost it. we are moving back towards and while my parents are very much an esteemed example, you and your family and your blogging are a huge motivator for me. i admire you greatly and have never thought you out of the fringes. more like the leader of the crowd.

nicola
Which Name?
ps. and can i just randomly admit i hate the term "mommy bloggers" and refuse to add that phrase to my mamma CV?

I was so "stunned" to read

I was so "stunned" to read your comments today! I think,as you realize, many of us feel this way...we are so far off the fringe, that just trying to reach out and grasp it seems surreal! I have felt and lived so different for so long in many ways! Thank you for writing whats in my heart on so many levels! Just some of my differences are...I am 50 years old and still have preschoolers to love! I have grown children, grandchildren, homeschooled children and neighborhood children everyday! What makes me feel so different much of my days is dealing with mental illness in some of my children. When you have a child who is bipolar and a child with asperegers...every single part of your life and day is different! And unless I were to put a sign on thier shirt so that people could understnad their struggles, there is no other way for me to pass off the judgements of others...both strangers as well as friends! My husband says we are running an orphanage for heaven, and i feel honored{on my good days} to do so> But it is all encompassing and leaves no time for fitting in. And then add to that my definite love for "living " outdoors with the boys as much as possible, living in nature, organic, wholelistic, unmaterialistic, old-grayhaired hippi mom who loves to play and laugh, wears jeans with holes in the knees...my knees wear out as fast as my boys!!! Well, you could say I stand out!!!!! Keep living and loving your life....how you spend your days is how you spend your life, and you will never regret following your own inner yearnings for goodness, joy, meaning and clarity!

I definitely feel this way

I definitely feel this way all the time.. As I'm sure you've noticed, I'm not your typical college student. I have a pathetic excuse for a compost bin on my patio for goodness sake! I do not eat ramen or mac and cheese or anything that is in many dorm rooms. I also do not party, drink, smoke, use harsh chemicals, buy expensive clothing, go dancing (this I actually want to do), go to college sporting events, belong to a sorority-- the list could go on and on. However, the list that outlines who I am is equally as long. I want to go to Naturopathic Medical School and have to constantly explain this to anyone I tell. *sighs* I enjoy acupuncture and bikram yoga and I want to go to Africa. I, like you and your lovely family eat a plant-based diet sin dairy and red meat, so I always end up choosing where a group of friends and I go to eat or what I have to cook, because "I care more.." Give me a break. I swear, it doesn't matter how many times I say it-- we can go anywhere that salad is served and I'm happy.

So, in conclusion, I feel you Renee, but I'm not sure if we're supposed to "fit in," though the feeling (or illusion) is certainly nice sometimes ;)

Oh Renee, I would be honored

Oh Renee, I would be honored to share in some good eats with you all =) Actually, a Northeast visit is not entirely impossible.. My mom has a really good friend from college who lives in New Hampshire. If that time comes, I will be sure to let you know!

Also, I know you know what I meant, but I didn't mean to generalize about all college students.. I do have some good friends who share similar values. I guess I've just been in the company of some "fun" people lately. And wouldn't you know it, I'm 20 right now and you couldn't pay me to get married. Everyone, my mother included, always says that my sentiments will change when I meet the right person, but I'm still not convinced ;)

Lastly, I read the comments above about non-disposable menstrual supplies, and I wanted to add that I use the Diva Cup and love it! I think it's one of the best inventions yet. However, you mentioned that yours leaks.. Sorry if no one else wants to read this, but maybe it's not placed right. I had trouble with that too until I figured everything out.

I am an Aussie lurker. I

I am an Aussie lurker.

I have only recently started reading your blog... was lucky enough to stumble upon it. I just wanted to let you know that I have very similar feelings a lot of the time. I too look to the internet for support and encouragement because it doesn't really exist in my world. A lot of what we do for our family well being is based on an intrinsic feeling of what is right for us, even though this often means thinking and acting in complete contrast to everyone else we know!

When I was reading this blog entry an image of overlapping circles came to mind. I don't think you will find people that fit in with you completely. I think that we are all like overlapping circles, we share aspects of our lives with one person, but share interests and views of another aspect of our lives with someone else. As a result, each one of us is unique and we all find aspects of each other very encouraging.

I guess that is just a long way of saying how much I enjoy your blog and while I am not on the same path as you in ALL aspects of my life, there is much that overlaps. Keep treading your right path !

Cheers,

Michelle

www.avisionsplendid.com

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